Now the problem is that this is the only QR flight of the day during the world cup, and they reduced the equipment to an A320 (they ordinarily have 18x weekly flights, or 2+ a day on 777/787/A350s). Its highly annoying and happens frequently. 2. But I pulled up the rules, and indeed, a domestic to domestic connection on American has an MCT of 25 minutes. After all, if you book a really short connection, youre increasing your odds of misconnecting. From New York to Raleigh, which departs from JFK (terminal 8) at 4:19pm EDT - operated by American Airlines. Including being in London and American Airlines had no plane to fly us home in. There are many AA flights from JFK to LAX every day so theyll get you there without any issues no matter what. Terminal 5 serves as the base of operations for low-cost carrier JetBlue. Again appreciate it! There will be separate lines most of the time its clearly labeled, so itll make perfect sense once youre there. I have to admit, if I can connect in MUC then I never use FRA. Hi what about the baggage? Thats a really good question that I dont know the answer to. 46 minutes is enough time since youll be arriving and departing out of Terminal 4 at JFK. Wve all undoubtedly seen our favorite actors and movie stars make mad dashes through the JFK airport in a way that makes it look like hell on earth. Hi George yes, 2 hours to go though customs and immigration at JFK will be tight (especially if you have checked luggage), but the thing thatll make it easy is that you wont have to switch terminals. I have also seen 30 An advantage of this would be access to cheaper fare inventory when the system creates a connecting itinerary. Youre welcome Jim! I try to avoid Austin for any traveling. Delta: 30-minute minimum connection time. MCTs (Minimum Connecting Times) are standardised and agreed data sets which provide the minimum possible connecting time for both a passenger and their luggage to connect between an arriving flight and their departing flight. You wont have the ability to go anywhere else. There was only one catch the connection time in Austin was just 25 minutes. If you've made a connecting stop in the previous 14 days in any country that is not on the UK approved travel corridor list, you will be required to self isolate upon your arrival to the UK. So if you want the cheaper fare you take the risk. I am flying Toronto JFK with Delta. Min Required Check-In/Baggage/Security Time. WILDCARD: if youre traveling alone and are worried about your connection, try to book a seat in the front half of the plane. I haven't checked lately but LAX used to have a very low MCT for flights at the Eagles Nest. Youll have to ask those in line in front of you. AUS expanded to over 30 gates just before Covid, and the other day, I arrived on a flight from LAX at Gate 1. Many do this (Ive done this twice) to get better fares or award seats out of JFK. Often, after booking, AA will change my outbound flights forcing a tight connection and I have to phone to change it back. Delta and Latam are in terminal 4. Hi Ingrid an hour and 45 minutes will be no problem considering that you wont have to change terminals. And if legaly booked you can apply for the EU261 rule and get some nice money. Hi Scott, youre amazing for creating this website, thank you!! Do I need to retrieve the luggage at JFK before rechecking them in? Scott, Hey Jen Delta uses Terminal 4 at JFK (youll arrive and depart from there), so you wont have to change terminals. We also have short times coming out of Roanoke VA and most flights are a terminal away in Charlotte. We received a message from Delta that the flight to BA is changed from Inexperienced flyers don't look closely at the connection time and book the flight. Thanks for providing such a great website for travelers to inquire about their travels!!!!! I'm guessing for them rebooting is easier than dealing with more complex computer programming. As long as you use the Air Train to move between terminals, youll most likely be able to do it in half that time. The main reason why short layovers are usually ok at JFK is due to the fact that there is no designated international terminal. If there was a second daily frequency I would risk it, but missing my flight home involves waiting for the next day's flight, or being funneled through DFW. Ive personally never done it with luggage, but if I was planning on doing it, my minimum connection time would be 2 and a half hours. The exception is Phoenix, which also has a 25-minute MCT, though thats a hub I generally avoid (just due to the geography, given that I live in Florida). Those are also the passengers most likely to be sitting in the back of the airplane. I am traveling via SFO end of week and wouldn't be update with a day in San Francisco. Its an interesting one. If it's less than an hour I move on and check the others. Its not the motherf*****r that you think it is. Down to :30 minutes to make the connection - or :20, to boarding ending. Make your flight connection at JFK easy! I recently booked a ticket with Qatar Airways from the U.S. to Asia on the same flights that I have flown on a few times before and normally had a connection of 3 hours. And I'm talking as flying about an average of 400k miles a year, so yes, I have had some luck. It lets me stretch my legs (which is good for anyone), and minimizes the chances of being among the folks running through the terminal. I was going from LGA to ORD with 30min connection in PHL. Each airline sets standard minimum connecting times at each hub it serves. I looked at map of T4 and found both gates but cant find customs at T4! It will be a lot more challenging otherwise but you should still have enough time for it. Minimum connection times at the John F Kennedy Airport in New York can be as low as 30 minutes for domestic flights (if you're flying the same airline). I also flying through Phoenix and agree with the author. Minimum Connecting Time Technical Guide Page 7 of 17 B. North America. I also try to take the first flight out of any city to insure that most likely that flight will be on time and many times "early" into the arrival gate. Based on my own experience, heres how long it usually takes me to move from one terminal to the next at JFK using the AirTrain (the Airline Terminals Train): Before I started flying on a somewhat regular basis, I always overestimated how much time I would need for a connection at JFK. Id rather get a plethora of connections than just a few that price me out of the market. Arriving on a commmuter flight and connecting internationally is impossible in less than 1 hour, especially if you are a disabled wheel chair user. Even if you cant get all the way to the front by asking, chances are good that youll be able to move ahead far enough to make a difference. Luckily it's a 6-hour layover so you have plenty of time, but alsoit's a 6-HOUR LAYOVER AND YOU CHANGE AIRPORTS. This problem invariably occurs because of airline instigated changes as I book months in advance. The individual airlines all have a certain set of gates they lease and they're all clumped together. I figured I was OK because I was traveling first class, and I have global pass. Thank you very much for your input. I almost got run over by a fellow passenger after arriving in PHX last week. While we do try to list all the best miles and points deals, the site does not include all card companies or credit card offers available in the marketplace. Yes absolutely. No earlier flights available my ass. I have good luck chatting through the app and I am not an elite. If you read your boarding passes, boarding on most carriers ends :10 minutes before the scheduled departure. United: 30-minute minimum for domestic, 60 minutes for international. American Airlines 25-Minute Minimum Connection Time, Americans 25-minute minimum connection time in Austin. And, it's no fun when that happens. Hi Sofia since its all the same ticket, you will not have to claim and then re-check your luggage. - Hadn't thought about the "trip delay" angle, but I'd be surprised if AUS expanded to over 30 gates just before Covid, and the other day, I arrived on a flight from LAX at Gate 1. If you book far enough in advance you'll almost certainly get a schedule change that makes the window less than the minimum connection. Happened to me twice and sat for an hour on the apron, The Austin airport is the most ridiculous airport I've ever been through and I've traveled for yearstheir people are NOT helpful there's no posted signs for gatesif there's a change IN GATE by the time you get to the other gate it's too late to go backwards. I don't agree with it. You may end up with a bulkhead seat behind first/business class. The nice thing about flights to LHR from JFK on American Airlines and British Airways is that there are many every day. You have to be trackstar to get around there. The connection time was 80 minutes. In Ben's defense, the ROI simply isn't there. A few months back I was connecting in MCO to MIA (after being rerouted through MCO) and the inbound was late. The airline doesnt want to pay you a family full of vouchers and potential hotel stays if they can avoid it. Down to :30 minutes to make the connection - or :20, to boarding ending. Ive never missed going between high A and high B gates when on time. If the tickets were purchased separately, then yes you will need to retrieve and re-check your luggage. We have a minimum at Charlotte and have to run across a large airport. You will NOT make a 25 minute connection. An international domestic connection (no terminal change), with checked baggage. If We had almost the same problem with American Airlines coming from the Bahamas to Miami ! Hi Scott, I will arrive at JFK at terminal 4 and have 3 hours before departure the international flight at Terminal 1. Hi Gerly since youll be clearing US customs and immigration prior to leaving Toronto, youll arrive at JFK just as a domestic flight would. Do you think 2:33 is enough to catch my flight to Sao Paulo? My wife and I are TSA Pre! You have to be extremely polite about it though, as not everyone will be sympathetic to your situation. Its their lack of actually getting you to your gate on time. This is the first time I've EVER arrived home at a gate below 19 on AA - but I've frequently come into Gate 34 at the other end of the airport. The airline will most assuredly not give your seat away to a standby passenger in this scenario. We're part-time European residents and our nearest (truly) international airport is ORD. Most of the international airlines which serve JFK are split between Terminals 1 and 4, though there are also some operating out of Terminals 5, 7 . Sounds like you just have a racism issue. My arrival was :06 minutes late. Running to your next gate, which is two or three terminals away, is the only option. And you dont need to worry ahead of time about where to go and how to get there they will funnel you directly to customs and immigration right from the plane. document.getElementById( "ak_js" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The short connection times that AAL often books me in CLT always cause me to call and change, sometimes multiple times. In general I think its time airlines overhaul their minimum connection times. You could probably pull it off, but I can guarantee that itll be a stressful experience. be okay in most cases ? WHY they do that is just stupid!! Flight attendants tried to calm me but.they confessed that it was just a couple of gates shy of the longest distance I could walk between the terminals. I do have Global entry. Yes! They are all separate buildings, connected by an inter-terminal train (the AirTrain). Thanks. We landed on time but with them closing boarding before the 25 minutes connection I was a mess. 1 hour and 40 minutes will be easy! I have decided to stop flying American Airlines because of other things they did which to me seemed quite abhorrent. I could never book a layover less than 1.5 hours. What I have observed is that if you want a longer connection time, then there is a cost increase associated with that convenience. Airlines are supposed to allow a specific amount of time between connecting flights. We have a domestic-international with terminal change, no checked bags, and we have TSA precheck, would 1 hour 40 min. I am a student and will have checked in baggage. Not gonna lie thats a connection that would make even my butt pucker a little (lol). My rule is two hours minimum for domestic and three hours international as you never know if the first leg will fly on time or if you can deplane in a timely manner so you can try to catch the second leg. But since you wont its gonna be easy. The only question is, do they have a protocol in place to alert the connecting gate agent that you're coming right off another plane, so they don't just declare you've missed the flight and close the door. I started not to book it because of such a short connection time, but it was the only flight I could book where I could get to Los Angeles before 11am. I'm pretty sure my FF Status with them and an article of me and my business publiced that time in their inflight magazine opened a few doors. to Int. NC JFK flight is owned by AA but operated by Republic Airways and JFK LHR is BA. I had a flight land I. Chicago at 8:36 p.m and a flight at 10:05 p.m. Nos ha pasado 2 veces viajando desde Orlando hacia Bogota. But yes. And as a flight attendant..were the ones that deal with the unhappy fliers! Much less stressful that way! American has always been weird this way. You're connection is likely really only 25mins as AA will make every effort to close your departing flight ten (10) mins early. Because of how long it takes to walk to the AirTrain station in some terminals, I would want at least an hour and a half for a no-stress connection. Such a disaster. International to domestic will require nearly all of that 1 hour and 25 minutes IMHO since youll have to do the customs/immigration thing. Will update the post to reflect that, thanks. Im asking partially bc we may try to meet a friend who happens to be staying nearby. And try running through Charlotte with the crowds of people who take their sweet time. Hi, were flying from Toronto to JFK (Feb 6, 2023) our first time to have layover in US, what do we need to provide . MAD-JFK-CLT. Even though we boarded the first flight on time the captain said charlotte had closed two runways and our connections will also be delayed. Yeah, thats not a very fun type of connection to make at JFK. Other airports with special minimum required times. A couple thoughts after reading this piece. If youre a family traveling together in this scenario, they may delay gate departure for 5-10 minutes so you have time to make your flight. And because youll go through US customs and immigration prior to departing YYZ, youll arrive at JFK as if it were a domestic US flight. 2 Hours Before Departure. The good news is that movies and TV shows are often exaggerated. Athens, Greece (ATH) 2 Hours Before Departure. If the connection had to have 30 min in Austin instead of 25, you might not get that low fare you wanted. The airline may or may not provide a hotel. Have booked some really cheap awards and ultimately ended up getting a much more favorable schedule. Our connecting flight is departing at 10:29pm on JetBlue. Thanks for the article, very informative. American Airlines - John F. Kennedy International, New York (JFK) In order to use a oneworld member airline lounge, . Llame y me queje y dije que la conexion es muy corta , pero a ellos no les importa. While looking at flights, I was surprised to stumble upon what must be among the shortest minimum connection time in the United States. How about when the first leg is 2 hr late? As long as I didnt have to switch terminals, my personal minimum connection time for a domestic to international flight at JFK would be 1 hour and 10 minutes. Both flights are operated by Air France but its a change from a domestic line to an international. Never mind that for Department of Transportation (DOT) purposes, flights are considered on-time if they arrive less than 15 minutes late. Hi Mae if you wont have to retrieve any luggage and/or check in for your connecting flight in Terminal 1, youll have plenty of time (and it wont be all that stressful). AA'd likely give some BS non-answer about customer feedback and ensuring passengers get to their destination "quickly and safely" yet completely ignoring that if customers miss flights because of short MCTs, they're getting NOWHERE quickly and safely. I call again and yet another A.B.B. Not difficult for the airline to accommodate one person; but for a family of four, not so much so. The John F Kennedy Airport is in a constant state of evolution, and a lot has changed over the years (including the elimination and combination of some terminal buildings). The only thing youll need to do is switch terminals (if necessary) and then check into for flight to Korea if you dont already have your boarding pass. As Dirty Harry said, "do you feel lucky punk." The AirTrain system operates between all passenger terminals. Hey Christina yeah, 30 minutes sounds scary (itd even make me pucker up a little lol) but its super easy to get all the way from one end of Terminal 5 to the other in no time flat. Three hours will be more than enough time! I also flying through Phoenix and agree with the author. As a counter(data)point, I've had hundreds of connections <1hr and misconnected fewer than ten times. Your Neos flight will arrive in Terminal 1, and your JetBlue flight will depart out of Terminal 5. I guess what I'm trying to say is you don't have to have just 25 minutes. They basically run a shuttle service between New York and London, so missing your flight wont be the end of the world. I was especially upset because even though it was tagged priority, AA didnt seem Just experienced this yesterday doing an AA international arrival and domestic departure at PHX. check connecting times and be aware of your layover length before purchase. Would you adjust any of your time estimates to take into consideration the construction? And if you think that's bad, let me tell you about the time AA kept us on plane on runway for hours then cancelled because I quote they were not permitting overtime for the pilots and then when I called to rebook the moron mistypes and books me for 12/26 instead of 2/26. For layovers of under an hours the plan A is to miss the flight and the plan B is not to miss the flight. Its an interesting one. There is no designated international terminal at the John F. Kennedy Airport. The airline knows youre arriving where and when before you do. Just setting yourself up for failure to take these 25 minute connections. Have a great trip! You should have enough time to meet your friend IMHO. I would say you could do a 25 minute connection if your flight was on time. Hi Brian yes, you will need to retrieve (and recheck) your luggage upon arrival at JFK. I see the attendant bypass my suitcase multiple times and politely try asking for it and the other passengers gently told me to just wait and I explain that my connection will be leaving soon and it's in another terminal. Its easy to switch terminals using the AirTrain, but Id highly recommend finding out where the stations are located in each terminal before you arrive (so you can hit the ground running). I need to transfer to Jet Blue to Jacksonville Fl with plenty of time allowed. I saw it routed through Austin, which is a fairly new focus city for American. The Charlotte Airport it takes at least 19 minutes to get to your next gate and that has been for every flight I have taken from there. Is an hour and 38 minutes enough time? Just walk from one plane to the next no security checks will be required. If it pushes back then sits for the required 25 minute delay I'd be really mad sitting there looking at it on the ramp. Your feedback is important in helping us keep our community safe. MUC is undoubtedly my favorite airport to be in, regardless what I want. Then, the AirTrain will be the fasted way to get over to T1. I'd be pissed if I was an AA employee, too. 1B). Air France doesnt fly from JFK to Prague nonstop. The passenger from the previous flight is at the counter and she tells me they gave our seats away. Thank you! I was especially upset because even though it was tagged priority, AA didnt seem to care and it came off towards the end. It's not just AA. Appreciate the help . We don't care if the passengers make the flight! I won't normally book connecting flights between any two points without at least 90 minutes' layover. And behind me were another 25 passengers. Naturally we didnt make our connection back to Ohare ! This is the first time I've EVER arrived home at a gate below 19 on AA - but I've frequently come into Gate 34 at the other end of the airport. JFK minimum connection times (what you can realistically expect). Were you flying international or domestically to a smaller service airport? a group, let's say representing 1/10th of the seats they will delay your connecting flight for that purpose but not if you travel alone.
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